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		<outline text="Jon Udell's opus">
			<outline text="Jon Udell: &lt;a href=&quot;http://software-carpentry.codesourcery.com/Groupware/report.html&quot;>Internet Groupware for Scientific Collaboration&lt;/a>."/>
			<outline text="Broad coverage of the tools we love, and ones we've never even heard of. Great report. Bookmark it."/>
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		<outline text="Mac Radio">
			<outline text="&lt;a href=&quot;http://macster.weblogs.com/discuss/msgReader$159&quot;>Jake posted&lt;/a> an &quot;RFC&quot; for the plan for Radio UserLand/Mac. I gave him the go-ahead. With any luck he'll have it in a couple of days and then we'll be doing the whole thing cross-platform."/>
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		<outline text="President Ford">
			<outline text="On my Blogger site, below, I posted a link with a silly comment about former President Gerald Ford's illness. At the time they said it was a cold. Later they said it was a stroke. I felt so bad about this. I wish him the best, get well soon. "/>
			<outline text="&lt;i>He's 87 years old&lt;/i> and frail. I actually shook his hand once, when he was President, and he came to speak at Tulane. He said something nice about our school. Not many people did in those days."/>
			<outline text="&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scripting.com/davenet/stories/NixonElvis.html&quot;>&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.scripting.com/images/trickyDickThumb.gif&quot; height=&quot;35&quot; width=&quot;36&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; hspace=&quot;10&quot; vspace=&quot;5&quot; align=&quot;right&quot;>&lt;/a> People always laughed at him, but he's a nice guy and he became President in a shitty way. (He also pardoned &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scripting.com/davenet/stories/NixonElvis.html&quot;>Tricky Dick&lt;/a>, so let's not go overboard.)"/>
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		<outline text="Our inspiration?">
			<outline text="&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.scripting.com/images/radioExe.gif&quot; hspace=&quot;10&quot; vspace=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;right&quot;>Some people think that the Radio.exe icon is Gerald Ford. I don't think so."/>
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		<outline text="More friendly mind bombing">
			<outline text="&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ourfavoritesongs.com/users/dave@userland.com/history.xml&quot;>Now you can see&lt;/a> the last 25 songs I've played. "/>
			<outline text="&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ourfavoritesongs.com/users.xml&quot;>The signed-on users list&lt;/a> has been updated, it now has a pointer to each user's history XML file. Each user also has a userAgent attribute."/>
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		<outline text="Mark your calendars">
			<outline text="&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bandwidthconference.com/panels.html&quot;>On Saturday August 19&lt;/a>, I'm moderating a star-studded panel Internet music execs at the Bandwidth Conference in SF, we'll talk about The Fan of the Future. "/>
			<outline text="&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.key3media.com/seyboldseminars/sf2000/&quot;>On Tuesday August 29&lt;/a>, I'm doing a lunch session at Seybold, also in SF, talking about the lessons of Napster for the publishing industry."/>
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		<outline text="Misc flames and pointers">
			<outline text="Reuters: &lt;a href=&quot;http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000803/wr/tech_apple_dc_2.html&quot;>Apple sues unknown trade secret leaker&lt;/a>."/>
			<outline text="Gartner: &lt;a href=&quot;http://gartner11.gartnerweb.com/public/static/hotc/hcil0714001.html&quot;>Microsoft retires COM&lt;/a>. "/>
			<outline text="John Montgomery, Microsoft's marketing czar for COM and .NET, wrote a &lt;a href=&quot;http://static.userland.com/gems/scriptingNews/COM%20and%20the%20dot%20NET%20Framework.htm&quot;>whitepaper&lt;/a> about COM's future existence in the context of .NET. I never thought for a minute that COM was gone, in fact, we're just starting to really use COM in our programming at UserLand."/>
			<outline text="&lt;a href=&quot;http://discuss.userland.com/msgReader$19412&quot;>Mark Allerton&lt;/a>: &quot;They can deny it as many times as they like, but it won't make it any less true.&quot;"/>
			<outline text="Regardless, Montgomery's whitepaper provides a fresh perspective on Dot-Net. A high-level runtime for scripting. Good idea. In a couple of years they might catch up with Frontier 1.0. &quot;;->&quot;"/>
			<outline text="Have you ever gotten an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scripting.com/images/emailFromMikhail.gif&quot;>email&lt;/a> from Mikhail Gorbachev?"/>
			<outline text="&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mercurycenter.com/svtech/columns/gillmor/docs/dg080200.htm&quot;>Dan Gillmor&lt;/a>: &quot;Instead of pointing multiple cameras at the convention floor and streaming the images to our computer screens, Web journalists should be looking at the issues -- at what will happen if we elect these people and what has brought our society to the point where we are.&quot;"/>
			<outline text="LA Times: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/news/state/20000801/t000072072.html&quot;>Is a stitch online a crime?&lt;/a>"/>
			<outline text="WSJ: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.msnbc.com/news/440645.asp?0nm=B25D&quot;>Microsoft cracks down on software piracy&lt;/a>."/>
			<outline text="First there was Blogger, now there's &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newsblogger.com/&quot;>NewsBlogger&lt;/a>, a collaboration between Pyra and Moreover."/>
			<outline text="I updated my Blogger &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geocities.com/davewiner/&quot;>site&lt;/a> using NewsBlogger! Coool."/>
			<outline text="&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.proggle.com/novobot/&quot;>Novobot&lt;/a> is a &quot;smart headline viewer.&quot;"/>
			<outline text="&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-2414434.html?tag=st.ne.1002.thed.ni&quot;>News.Com&lt;/a>: &quot;A team of IBM summer interns has created a free, new tool that eases the task of writing Linux-based software.&quot;"/>
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