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		<outline text="People of the Web: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thetwowayweb.com/discuss/msgReader$205&quot;&gt;What are you thankful for?&lt;/a&gt;" created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:41:26 GMT"/>
		<outline text="While we've been fussing over Radio 7.1 with our beta group, we've also been getting a new release of Frontier ready to go. It's also called 7.1. Here's a list of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://frontier.userland.com/changes/kernel71&quot;&gt;new kernel features&lt;/a&gt; in Frontier 7.1. I think it's a really solid point-one release. Lots of new goodies, fixes, performance enhancements, for both Mac and Windows. BTW, all the new stuff from Love Manila Month is included in 7.1 as well. I don't have a list of those yet, but will have one shortly." created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:42:13 GMT"/>
		<outline text="&lt;a href=&quot;http://andrea.editthispage.com/2001/11/20&quot;&gt;Andrea&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;I've passed my last exam. It went much, much better than math, so I'm happy now.&quot;" created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:50:02 GMT"/>
		<outline text="$830K for Stallman" created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:02:29 GMT">
			<outline text="&lt;a href=&quot;http://www-tech.mit.edu/V121/N59/59stallman.59n.html&quot;&gt;Richard Stallman&lt;/a&gt; will have a Happy Thanksgiving this year." created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:57:20 GMT"/>
			<outline text="Do you work really hard to make good software? I do it every day. Does Stallman push the envelope? I haven't seen any evidence of that. Imho, the economy is still rewarding the wrong people. At one time if you pushed for excellence in software, you could build a nice business. I still believe that. But it's disheartening to see so much money go to support Stallman's theories. I believe this works against software breakthroughs, even software progress." created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:08:27 GMT"/>
			<outline text="Something to think about. Would the $830K have been better used to support SourceForge?" created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:33:29 GMT"/>
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		<outline text="Can open source compete?" created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:09:36 GMT">
			<outline text="Yesterday I had a long phone talk with the leader of an open source project that's in a similar space to the work I've been calling Hypercard + MORE. " created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:09:43 GMT"/>
			<outline text="&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.semi-retired.com/kevin_altis/&quot;&gt;Kevin Altis&lt;/a&gt; is the lead developer of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://pythoncard.sourceforge.net/&quot;&gt;PythonCard&lt;/a&gt; project. We compared notes, I explained how I was &lt;a href=&quot;http://scriptingnews.userland.com/backissues/2001/11/20#hypercardAndTheWeb&quot;&gt;using&lt;/a&gt; the outliner to design complete user interfaces, how that relates to OPML and explained how, if they want to, they can leverage our work." created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:26:50 GMT"/>
			<outline text="I liked talking with Kevin, he was part of the Very Early Web, formerly of Intel. He's an engineer and a straight shooter. What was most striking about the conversation was the reality of open source projects after the dust has settled, the hype has subsided, and the ESR theories debunked (fully). " created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:11:38 GMT"/>
			<outline text="Open source projects are mail lists, not that different from W3C mail lists, or the Syndication or XML-RPC lists. They attract people who like to debate, few if any write code, and those who do are not appreciated or supported. We hit the same limits when we tried to do our development in the open. It wasn't until we focused on what we like to do (make cool software), and viewed users as feedback providers, not politicians or co-developers, that we were able to get back on track." created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:18:48 GMT"/>
			<outline text="Then I think of Stallman's $830K. Is anyone giving Altis money or other forms of appreciation for working his butt off? And that much money could fund a small software company like UserLand for two years. It's a lot of money." created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:17:08 GMT"/>
			<outline text="Perhaps this can be a theme for Thanksgiving 2001. Let's pay our respects to developers who work for not much love &lt;i&gt;or&lt;/i&gt; money, to make the world work better through software. " created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:17:33 GMT"/>
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		<outline text="Bill Gates' Thanksgiving" created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:53:18 GMT">
			<outline text="&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/21/technology/21SOFT.html&quot;&gt;NY Times&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;With this settlement, Microsoft gets off dirt-cheap,&quot; said Eugene Crew, a partner of Townsend &amp; Townsend &amp; Crew, a law firm in San Francisco, &quot;and it helps Microsoft perpetuate its monopoly.&quot;"/>
			<outline text="I guess at Thanksgiving dinner, Bill Gates will be thankful that he was able to defeat the Web, bottle it and control it, stuff it in the trunk, lock it and throw away the key." created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:52:25 GMT"/>
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		<outline text="Thanksgivings of the past" created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:32:49 GMT">
			<outline text="&lt;a href=&quot;http://davenet.userland.com/directory/952/thanksgiving&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.scripting.com/images/2001/11/21/turkey.gif&quot; height=&quot;118&quot; width=&quot;100&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; hspace=&quot;15&quot; vspace=&quot;3&quot; align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Soundbites from previous Thanksgiving pieces follow." created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:05:31 GMT"/>
			<outline text="&lt;a href=&quot;http://davenet.userland.com/1995/11/30/happythanksgiving&quot;&gt;1995&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;Please don't forget to thank yourself.&quot;" created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:12:27 GMT"/>
			<outline text="&lt;a href=&quot;http://davenet.userland.com/1996/11/27/Thanks&quot;&gt;1996&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;We have a positive heritage. A national sense of humor. We have a thumbs-up, can-do attitude. This holiday is the one where we choose to focus on our best. Everyone wins on Thanksgiving. We're grateful for what we have. We let go of our fear, we make love, and we look forward.&quot;" created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:17:25 GMT"/>
			<outline text="&lt;a href=&quot;http://davenet.userland.com/1997/11/25/Thanksgiving1997&quot;&gt;1997&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;No one is less deserving on Thanksgiving. Rich people serve food to homeless people. We put aside our normal hierarchy and look for the person, not the bank account, house, car, education, spouses, children.&quot;" created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:21:38 GMT"/>
			<outline text="&lt;a href=&quot;http://davenet.userland.com/1998/11/26/aLiteThanksgiving&quot;&gt;1998&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;Properly done, Thanksgiving is also about giving people a break. Loosen the ties, cut some slack. No one's perfect, even on a major holiday. Of course. Especially not on a major holiday.&quot;" created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:23:27 GMT"/>
			<outline text="&lt;a href=&quot;http://davenet.userland.com/1999/11/25/wereAllNewbies&quot;&gt;1999&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;Newbies are people who are trying something new. So it seems pretty clear, if you have a choice, why not be a newbie?&quot;" created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:26:50 GMT"/>
			<outline text="&lt;a href=&quot;http://davenet.userland.com/2000/11/23/theBabyEagleStory&quot;&gt;2000&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;A reminder that the world, and the universe that contains it, while vast and mysterious, can also be a lot of fun.&quot;" created="Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:28:58 GMT"/>
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